It does seem like we're kind of at an inflection point where people are looking for ways to secure AI, to do AI faster. 

But how do they simplify their infrastructure? Almost like a convergence of things coming together. I'd like to say that it gets you the first 75% of the benefits of modernization without having to blow up every app you've ever built. 

Right. Right? Because you migrate your VMs over as is and you get all of the cloud native operations. The second one we talk about sovereignty is I can shape the outcomes.