So one of the things that we've observed is, as my former colleague from my NTT days said, that he was at a forum recently that was hosted by, for example, the Department of Homeland Security, and the date by which organizations need to be quantum safe or quantum resilient or quantum ready has been moving left of what was previously center. 

So that center might have been 2040, 2035, then 2030, then 2029 as Google and Microsoft Microsoft announced, and now there is a mandate for January 2027, for example, in the US. 

And so there is this growing anxiety around where cryptography and cybersecurity is going to intersect with quantum, because it's been the harvest now, decrypt later fear. 

but it's also now around how do systems today be ready when it takes time, there's a lag time for systems to be ready in terms of being made, but how do they get ready today?