I'm Really Glad You Brought That Up

I'm really glad you brought that up, because I'm pretty passionate about the human side of security in general. I think that folks that go through the process of recovering from a cyber attack are infinitely valuable. Not only have they helped the business recover from that attack, but going through that process, seeing how the attack behaved, knowing what to do, knowing what technology would have helped that what what they had how it how it did help, and getting going through that whole process really makes makes a difference it becomes it makes you infinitely valuable, not only to the company that you're in, but also maybe as far as being poached from that company, right? And I don't think that enough organizations take enough time to think about things like that, the human side of what happens when these things go on, because you think about Recovering from a cyber attack, you hear about these businesses that it takes months to recover.